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Combination of local tranforms and active element produces wrong results
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System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2060/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.92

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.90 (sub 3), branch: master, commit date: 2020-05-22 20:59, hash: rB86fa8dc7f73a
Worked: it has never worked properly.

Short description of error
As per design this should result in rotation all object based on the local transforms of the selected object, but instead it tries to transform each object to its own local transform which is to be the result for an other combination (local transform orientations + individual origins transform pivot point.)

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Create a new scene,
Duplicate select the 3 objects in the scene (camera, cube and lamp)
Select the aforementioned combination, local tranforms and active element pivot


Rotate your objects in any particular axis (in trackball seems to work correctly?, but that defeats the purpose of using local axis)

Now try the same but with 3 bones, the results are even stranger.

Final Words:
Combining transform orientations and pivots in blender is an essential part of the workflow and very powerful, some of the combinations have been overlooked, like when using "local transform orientations" but in "active element pivot"

Event Timeline

Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) created this task.May 23 2020, 7:25 PM
Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) added a project: Animation & Rigging.
Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) updated the task description. (Show Details)
Richard Antalik (ISS) changed the task status from Needs Triage to Needs Information from User.May 25 2020, 2:51 PM
Richard Antalik (ISS) added a subscriber: Richard Antalik (ISS).

I am not sure what you see when you follow the steps, but what I see seems to be correct.

Can you explain(or make recording) what happens and what should happen?

Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) closed this task as Archived.Jun 2 2020, 2:40 PM
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) claimed this task.
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No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed.

Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.

Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) added a comment.Jun 2 2020, 3:08 PM

Can we reopen the report later as im without a computer so i can’t create examples recordings or anything until my laptop is back

Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) added a comment.Jun 2 2020, 3:20 PM

@Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) maybe it's better to create a new bug report, as there is much to improve in this one:

As per design this should result in rotation all object based on the local transforms of the selected object,

Which design? What is "this" in this sentence? I don't understand the "simple explanation" section.

Duplicate select the 3 objects in the scene

What is "duplicate select"?

Rotate your objects in any particular axis (in trackball seems to work correctly?, but that defeats the purpose of using local axis)

Please don't ask questions at the same time as explaining how to reproduce the issue. By default Blender doens't use Trackball mode, so there is no need to mention that here in the middle of the description. It's much clearer to just mention that Trackball works correctly at the end of the task description.

the results are even stranger.

Keep descriptions factual. It is hard to understand "strange", and much simpler to understand "rotate around the X axis, and observe that the object actually rotates around the Y axis".