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Geometry Nodes: non-deterministic material handling in Join Geometry node
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System Information
Operating system: Darwin-20.2.0-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: AMD Radeon Pro 5500M OpenGL Engine ATI Technologies Inc. 4.1 ATI-4.2.13

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.93.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-02-23 23:15, hash: rBb2c7ea6d82c4
Worked: -

Short description of error
Adding a node sometimes randomly disables the material textures in the 3d view. So far this has happened with adding a transform node and attribute randomise node (last one unconnected). With the attached file, a reliable way to reproduce this is to duplicate the transform node and add it directly to the right of the original one. The only reliable way to undo this I have found so far is to mute and unmute the attribute fill node (undoing adding the just added node doesn't help).

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Donut geometry nodes.blend1 MBDownload

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Wouter Stomp (wouterstomp) created this task.Feb 24 2021, 9:43 PM
Wouter Stomp (wouterstomp) added a project: Geometry Nodes.Feb 24 2021, 10:30 PM
Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke) merged a task: T85956: Inconsistent behaviour of material assignment using geometry nodes.Feb 25 2021, 9:52 AM
Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke) added a subscriber: Simon Thommes (simonthommes).
Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke) added subscribers: Hans Goudey (HooglyBoogly), Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke).EditedFeb 25 2021, 9:57 AM

This is caused by the non-determinism in the Join Geometry node.. It is currently passing on the materials of the "first" input input (see BKE_mesh_copy_settings(new_mesh, first_input_mesh);). However, since there is the multi-input-socket "first" is not well defined anymore and my change arbitrarily.
I can think of two possible solutions (maybe both are necessary):

  • Have a deterministic input order internally.
  • Introduce proper material handling in Geometry Nodes. This is probably not something we can get around for long. So we might also just start working on it now.
Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke) renamed this task from Geometry Nodes: adding a node randomly disables materials in viewport to Geometry Nodes: non-deterministic material handling in Join Geometry node.Feb 25 2021, 9:57 AM
Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke) changed the task status from Needs Triage to Confirmed.
Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke) moved this task from Backlog/Bugs to Product Backlog on the Geometry Nodes board.
Charlie Jolly (charlie) closed this task as Resolved.Feb 25 2021, 10:57 AM
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Charlie Jolly (charlie) reopened this task as Confirmed.Feb 25 2021, 10:58 AM

Accidentally resolved! Sorry!

Charlie Jolly (charlie) removed Charlie Jolly (charlie) as the assignee of this task.Feb 25 2021, 10:58 AM
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) added a project: Nodes & Physics.Mar 2 2021, 10:53 AM
Dalai Felinto (dfelinto) mentioned this in T86931: Join Node remaining issues.Mar 25 2021, 11:49 AM
Jacques Lucke (JacquesLucke) closed this task as a duplicate of T87419: Incorrect link order after inserting node before multi-input-socket..Apr 12 2021, 1:44 PM

The non determinism of the Join Geometry node has been resolved by making the multi-input-socket ordered.
However, there is another related bug: T87419.